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http://www.alaskareport.com/reu77640.htm

Man, I almost wish [livejournal.com profile] mr_dark were still here. I would be most entertained by a ten page essay beginning with "First of all..." and then followed by forty-five pieces of evidence revealing this news article to be completely untrue... nearly all of them coming from Rush Limbaugh or the like.

Date: 2007-02-01 04:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] adonijah74.livejournal.com
While I certainly don't wish to be equated to Mr. Dark, I can't read stuff like that article you linked to and not feel compelled to call b.s.

You know why Greenland is called Greenland?

Because a few thousand years ago it was not covered in snow and ice! Yeah, it was Green, farmable and a habitat quite hospitable to human beings. This is a fact.

And it probably will be again someday. Last time I checked, we weren't traversing the globe in our SUV's and spewing clouds of toxic death from our evil corporate factories thousands of years ago, so what caused the ice shelf to melt then?

There is a natural course of climate change that takes place every so often and that's it, simple as that.

The "global warming" crowd is nothing more than a pro-socialism lobby trying to find new ways to make gullible Americans pay more taxes by making them feel guilty about "what they've done to our fragile earth."

But wait...what about the scientific consensus, doesn't that mean anything?

If there's a consensus, it's not science.

These people have to find some way of justifying the millions of dollars they get in grants from the government (i.e. the taxpayers). So they tell everyone that the sky is falling and that "there must be more research done.." and "we need to find new ways to fight global warming" and all this obnoxious tripe.

There was also a consensus that the 2006 hurricane season was going to make 2005's look like a mild drizzle, due to global warming. Looks like that didn't work out so well.

In the 1970’s, global temperatures had actually been dropping since 1945, and a “global cooling” concern became prominent, despite what is now dismissed as a lack of scientific support.

This link has a lot of very important info regarding "global warming".

http://www.junkscience.com/Greenhouse/

Date: 2007-02-01 06:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] uberreiniger.livejournal.com
President George W. Bush's position on global warming has evolved over his presidency, from open skepticism about the reality of the phenomenon to acknowledgment at a global summit last year that climate change is occurring and human activities speed it up.

In his State of the Union address on January 23, Bush called climate change "a serious challenge" that should be addressed by technology and greater use of alternative sources of energy.


Looks like you might want to tell him that. Apparently he doesn't agree with you.

Date: 2007-02-01 08:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] adonijah74.livejournal.com
It's one of the many reasons I've disowned him. I support the war on facist islam, but even there I think we need to quit tip-toeing around and start blowing more things up. It's pretty much global warming and the border issues that have made me realize that he is not a true Conservative. But he's certainly better than Lurch (Kerry) or Algore.

Climate change is cyclical, plain and simple. The Medieval Warm Period (lasting about 4 centuries-this is when Greenland was green) is a prime example of it. So is the "Little Ice Age". For instance, in the winter of 1780, people could walk from Manhattan to Staten Island via the frozen NY harbor. No one would ever imagine that today, but it may happen again.

The earth warms, the earth cools, the tides come in & they go out, the sun comes up and the sun comes down, various species live and die. This is the way of the universe from the dawn of creation. I've heard everything from cow farts http://www.show.me.uk/site/news/STO873.html to SUV's as the culprits to climate change and I don't buy any of it.

If Bush is changing lanes here (and unfortunately, it looks like he may), well...at least there's only about 2 years left, maybe there's still hope that America will not become a socialist nation.

Date: 2007-02-02 06:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] uberreiniger.livejournal.com
The problem is that while climate change is cyclical, waste chemicals released into the atmosphere accelerate and enhance the process. The best description of it I've heard from a scientist is that it's like adding octane to gasoline. It may not create new climate changes, but it definately can make the climate changes more of what they already are and that could have very serious consequences.

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