Let none of us be saved. Not one.

[uberreiniger]

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/14021621/teenage_holy_war/1

Most of you (and most people who've already posted it on livejournal,) will sneer at this and shake your head in sorrow, bewliderment, and anger. For me... well, what can I say? I spent my teen years going to these kind of things. I'm not the same person I was then. I don't view God the way most of Christian America views Him. But things like this... I remember and I know what the kids there are going through.

I'd like to add this statement. Rolling Stone loves to look down its nose whenever it talks about anything relating to Christianity or any thing relating to morality. As a magazine they're entertaining, but they should never be mistaken for objective journalism.

As a Christian I do believe the world is a place full of evil. And I do believe that if there are things in your life that are having a negative effect on you, you should give them up. Those are messages that have always been central to Christianity and that people don't like to hear. The man running the event in the article might be a zealot with delusions of demagoguery, but in that if nothing else, I feel he is correct. His definition of a Christian and some of his statistics are another matter...

What I don't believe is right is for people to decide they are sinning when they enjoy A&W root beer just because somebody on a stage told them that everything outside the boundaries they establish as being safe is bad and evil. If God wants you to get something out of your life, He'll get it out. And He doesn't need a headbanging light show to do it. It's too easy to mistake a perceived authority as the voice of God and there are too many people too eager to do it.

I had a point I was going to make but I'm tired and my train of thought is wandering. A few years ago I felt it I was following God's wishes when I gave up L5R for while due to the fact that I couldn't control my temper when I lost a game. I took a long step back and now I enjoy the game without being an obnoxious ass. I just saw the effect on my own life and relationships and did what I felt the right or godly thing to do would be. It's that easy. That's all you have to do. And that's why people who arbitrarily give up things on another's say-so are so often bitterly disappointed in the results they achieve.

Comments

[stitchedsutures.livejournal.com]

I had issues with pretty much the same things. While there is NOTHING wrong with trying to get kids motivated to participate and be fired up about their religious beliefs, I did find that some of what was going on reeked of commercialism itself. Christianity shouldn't have to be repackaged in a "cool" wrapper for kids because what is "cool" never stays the same even for a couple of years! The motivation needs to come from within rather than to feel empowered by being part of a vocal group. That's EASY. That takes little to no courage!

Sort of like those virginity pledges that lots of HSs or churches have kids sign when they are still teens, it is often abandoned later when it's no longer considered "cool" by the people around you. And that changes a lot, especially once you go from being a teen to a young adult who succumbs to the "But I'm 18 and I'm considered an "adult" now and it's myyyyyyy life and myyyyyyyy choice!"

I also think it's interesting (speaking of sexuality) how these days kids like to act as if they are still being chaste and moral so long as they don't have the actual OMG PENIS IN THE VAGINA sex. Blow jobs, hand jobs, lots of other stuff is okay, right? it's not actually sex, right? We're not breaking our virginity vows, right? Then we can continue to do what we're doing and not feel so bad. I'd like to see that menality blown out of the water, but some of this "real enemy" talk I do find scary. Especially when kids are taking it from what a person said rather than from what God said in the Bible itself.

[uberreiniger.livejournal.com]

I'm sure I told you about my friend who was having anal sex for a long time and thought herself still a virgin. I'm pretty sure the hymen has no executive power once you've taken it up the ass. It is a lame duck hymen. Fortunately she eventually realized the massive flaws in her logic.

[ghaidin.livejournal.com]

woah. And I thought Clinton's tap dance around the line was up there.

And my mom's friend making us wait until 00:01 to eat that pizza with pepperoni on it, because -hey- that's not Friday anymore? A wannabe.

does the bible have anything specific to say about anal sex? Would that be a form of onanism? *scratches head*
I know any activity aimed to arousal that is not meant to end in this-into-that-repeat-as-wished is a sin according to the rules of my church

[uberreiniger.livejournal.com]

Well the closest we get is all the "man-shall-not-lie-with-man" thing so I guess anal sex with women is okay. This is a joyous day for humanity...

*ahem* Where was I? Oh yes, churches and their rules. I could go on for hours about that but I guess it's a whole other topic. However since I think onanism is a fun word to say and since I write fiction intended to inspire onanism I might be the wrong person to ask.

[ghaidin.livejournal.com]

hm. So that means it'd also be ok to have a woman giving it to a guy up his... never mind. Yeah, never mind.

[uberreiniger.livejournal.com]

Well if that's what you're into :)

[ghaidin.livejournal.com]

hmmm. Just stretching the concept, really.

I think ideas are like leather, the more you wear them and the more you stretch them, the better they get ;)

Not that I'm opposed to the act, mind you. Consenting, well informed adults... all is game.

[uberreiniger.livejournal.com]

The concept's not all it's stretching!

I hereby dub thee the Economist With a Strap-On! *knights you*

[ghaidin.livejournal.com]

Ohhhhh *shiny eyes*
Do you think there's any chance the twin abbesses Eva and Ava may give me their blessings?

[uberreiniger.livejournal.com]

Only if the strap-on is involved ;)